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		<title>SunFire T2000 Setup</title>
		<link>http://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2006/04/07/t2000-setup/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Wagstrom</dc:creator>
		
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This week I managed to unpack the T2000 server.   It&#8217;s a pretty large box,
but not overly huge.  The hard disks are nice little 73GB SAS drives that
pull right out of the box.  The CD/DVD drive is a sleek slot loading drive.
I do have to say, Sun did a good job making
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This week I managed to unpack the T2000 server.   It&#8217;s a pretty large box,<br />
but not overly huge.  The hard disks are nice little 73GB SAS drives that<br />
pull right out of the box.  The CD/DVD drive is a sleek slot loading drive.<br />
I do have to say, <a href="http://www.sun.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.sun.com');">Sun</a> did a good job making<br />
this box look really nice and sleek.  A datacenter of these things would<br />
be quite cool (literally and figuratively).
</p>
<p>
My initial hope was to commandeer a monitor, plug in a USB keyboard, and go<br />
at it.  One major proble, there is no video card installed on the box, although<br />
if I had an extra PCI-E card, it would be interesting to see what happens with<br />
one.  Initial system boot-up and installation is done via the serial console.<br />
Okay, find a null modem and a laptop with a serial port (my new T43p does not<br />
have a serial port).  Wrong.  Even if I could have found a null modem, the<br />
regular serial port is not the serial console, instead you need to use an<br />
RJ45-&gt;DB9 dongle to get a serial terminal.  Of course, these things were no<br />
where to be found around <a href="http://www.cmu.edu/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.cmu.edu');">Carnegie Mellon</a>.
</p>
<p>
Luckily, an email went off, and a schmeatic of the circuit came back.  Thinking<br />
for a bit, I remembered that <a href="http://www.makezine.com/">Make Magazine<br />
vol 1</a> had an article on how to build a<br />
<a href="http://www.ossmann.com/5-in-1.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.ossmann.com');">5-in-1 network cable</a>.  Off to<br />
Radio Shack for some parts.  Unfortunately, Radio Shack has slowly turned<br />
itself into &#8220;crappy overpriced cell-phone shack&#8221;.  Not a single RJ45-DB9<br />
connector was to be found.  The only DB9 connectors I could find were just<br />
a single snap in port.  In fact, they didn&#8217;t even have a coupler for RJ45.  So I picked up two of them.  The next step was to<br />
mangle an ethernet cable, and have some breadboard fun.  After about 30 minutes,<br />
I had my circuit.
</p>
<p><center><a href="/resources/images/blog/t2000SetupConverter.jpg"><img src="/resources/images/blog/t2000SetupConverter.thumb.jpg"><br />The Ghetto RJ45-&gt;DB9 Converter</a></center></p>
<p>
Luckily, after a little bit of tweaking the circuit, and reseating some wires<br />
on my breadboard, the ALOM on the T2000 started up and spit out data to the<br />
Hyper Terminal running on <a href="http://kristina.wagstrom.net/" >Kristina&#8217;s</a><br />
laptop.  It was pretty straight forward to get the network console running<br />
after this point, and yes, it can DHCP an address, but be very careful about<br />
putting the network admin port on a public network because the VxWorks OS that<br />
runs ALOM does NOT support SSH.  Suckage.  Here&#8217;s another shot of getting<br />
everything going.  I&#8217;ve got the serial terminal up on the HP laptop and the<br />
network terminal up on the T43p.  After booting into Solaris, it&#8217;s much better<br />
to use SSH to connect to the OS than go over the network terminal.
</p>
<p><center><a href="/resources/images/blog/t2000SetupComputers.jpg"><img src="/resources/images/blog/t2000SetupComputers.thumb.jpg"><br />Getting the T2000 Up and Running</a></center></p>
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		<title>T2000 Has Arrived</title>
		<link>http://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2006/04/03/t2000-the-arrival/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Wagstrom</dc:creator>
		
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After a long series of delays and communication problems, the T2000 server from
Sun has finally arrived.  Apparently there was an issue with my original submission back in February.  Once I
resubmitted my request I was approved in fairly short order and received some pretty good responses from folks at Sun.  Kudos to them [...]]]></description>
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After a long series of delays and communication problems, the <a href="http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/t2000/test/over.jsp" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.sun.com');">T2000 server</a> from<br />
<a href="http://www.sun.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.sun.com');">Sun</a> has finally arrived.  Apparently there was an issue with my original submission back in February.  Once I<br />
resubmitted my request I was approved in fairly short order and received some pretty good responses from folks at Sun.  Kudos to them for making the<br />
most out of an annoying situation.
</p>
<p>
I do have a few critiques about the process.  First of all, the sales people were, for lack of a better term, sales people.  I started to get<br />
random messages from people I had no knowledge of and seemed to have no relation to me.  I was sent an invoice with a subject line of &#8220;INVOICE&#8221;,<br />
which of course usually goes right to the spam filter.  Finally, I got some helpful documents under a subject line of &#8220;[Fwd: [Fwd: cool tool FYI]]&#8221;,<br />
with no explanation of why I was getting it.  So let me provide a few suggestions to make the process nicer to people like me:
</p>
<ul>
<li>Use informative subject lines that are not all capitalized.  Remove all those &#8220;Fwd&#8221; headers too.  Instead write &#8220;Helpful Sun T2000 Documents&#8221;.</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re going to send me an email from an address that looks real, make sure you reply to it when I ask a question about it.  This goes for<br />
	you, Rebecca Lukens.  I received an Invoice which said I needed to take some action regarding it, I replied to it with a few questions and never<br />
	got a response.  I tried again, and never got a response.  There was also no contact information in the message, which I&#8217;ve reproduced in verbatim here:</p>
<pre>Try &amp; Buy quote attached.  Thanks!</pre>
</li>
<li>Take some time to say why you&#8217;re emailing me.  For example Instead of the above message, I would have appreciated something like this:
<pre>Mr. Wagstrom,

Attached you'll find a quote for your recent Sun Microsystems T2000 Try and Buy request.
Should you choose to keep the machine beyond 60 days, you'll be required to pay the full
amount of the invoice unless other arrangements have been made.  For right now, please
enjoy the machine and we hope it sits your needs well.

If you have questions, you can contact me at:
[CONTACT INFORMATION HERE]</pre>
<p>	You&#8217;ll notice it&#8217;s a form letter.  They don&#8217;t even have to think more than pasting in the current text, but it would be very helpful to me. Also, the change would give it a chance of evading the <a href="http://www.cmu.edu/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.cmu.edu');">Carnegie Mellon</a> spam filters.
	</li>
<li>When sending out unsolicited attachments via email, also include a web link to a site on sun.com where I can retrieve these documents.<br />
	I trust documents coming from sun.com more than I do general email that is sent to me from unknown individuals.</li>
</ul>
<p>
But like I said, the process was actually relatively painless.   A few frustrations, but I&#8217;m happy with the opportunity to test out this technology.<br />
We&#8217;ll start benchmarking it soon.</p>
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		<title>A Phone Call From Sun</title>
		<link>http://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2006/03/03/sales-call/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Wagstrom</dc:creator>
		
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Last week I submitted a
try and buy request to Sun for some equipment to us on some research
projects at school.  In particular, I&#8217;m excited about using it to scan the
network for spyware.  I was a little worried that my information was not
processed properly as I got a brief error message upon submission of [...]]]></description>
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Last week <a href="/weblog/computers/sun/sun-fire-t2000.xml">I submitted a<br />
try and buy request to Sun</a> for some equipment to us on some research<br />
projects at school.  In particular, I&#8217;m excited about using it to scan the<br />
network for spyware.  I was a little worried that my information was not<br />
processed properly as I got a brief error message upon submission of the<br />
request.  No problem, email my <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/pwags"><br />
personal Sun representive</a> (aka my brother), and see what&#8217;s going on.<br />
After a few messages were passed around, I got an phone call from Sun today<br />
about the project.
</p>
<p>
As I thought, the machines are way backed up because of the massive response<br />
to their admittedly very cool offer.  I explained our situation to their<br />
educational sales person for the Pittsburgh area (note to Sun web folks, I<br />
could not easily find this information on your web site.  Instead Phil had to<br />
contact the sales person for the University of Minnesota who forwarded my<br />
information to the nice person here in Pittsburgh) and she seemed quite<br />
receptive and reassured me that Sun was processing the stuff and that our<br />
purpose seemed pretty novel and interesting.  So, we&#8217;re still in the queue,<br />
but it should be all good from here.
</p>
<p>
She could have just left it at that, but she didn&#8217;t.  She also was helpful<br />
enough to provide us information about Sun matching grants for hardware.  This<br />
drops the price of a 4 core box down to a more reasonable $3800 or so.  Pretty<br />
nice.  However, we still don&#8217;t have that much money, at least not yet.  Anyway,<br />
if this can run on $3800 hardware, I&#8217;d think that it makes things a whole lot<br />
more attractive for doing some sustained testing on the system.  We&#8217;ll just have<br />
to see how well everything actually runs on it.
</p>
<p>
Once this thing shows up I&#8217;ll be sure to blog some more and provide some<br />
photos of the system along with preliminary benchmarks.</p>
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		<title>Sun Fire T2000 - Try Before You Buy</title>
		<link>http://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2006/02/25/sun-fire-t2000/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Wagstrom</dc:creator>
		
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Last week, Phil sent me
an email about Sun Microsystem&#8217;s new
T2000 series
of servers, based on their Niagara core.  Basically, this is a 4, 6, or 8
core system, each of which can execute up to four threads in parallel.  It&#8217;s
supposed to be great for highly threaded, low FPU applications &#8212; like
web serving and database serving.


As [...]]]></description>
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Last week, <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/pwags" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogs.sun.com');">Phil</a> sent me<br />
an email about <a href="http://www.sun.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.sun.com');">Sun Microsystem&#8217;s</a> new<br />
<a href="http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/t2000/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.sun.com');">T2000</a> series<br />
of servers, based on their Niagara core.  Basically, this is a 4, 6, or 8<br />
core system, each of which can execute up to four threads in parallel.  It&#8217;s<br />
supposed to be great for highly threaded, low FPU applications &#8212; like<br />
web serving and database serving.
</p>
<p>
As part of their promotion, they&#8217;re doing this cool <a href="https://www.sun.com/emrkt/trycoolthreads/index.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.sun.com');">Try before you Buy</a> thing.  Basically,<br />
you given them your information, they send you a server free for 60 days &#8212; they<br />
even cover postage.  You evaluate it, if you like it, you pay for it.  If it<br />
doesn&#8217;t work well for your field, send it back &#8212; once again, on Sun&#8217;s dime.  Pretty cool stuff.  What&#8217;s cooler, is that according to <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan?entry=niagara_benchmarks" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogs.sun.com');">Jonathan Schwartz</a>, they&#8217;re looking for people to benchmark these guys.  Specifically, if you<br />
do a good enough job on the writeup, they may let you keep it.
</p>
<p>
So, being the graduate student I am, I immediately realized a couple of<br />
different applications that I&#8217;d like to work on with this little guy.  Firstly,<br />
we&#8217;re going to see how well he works as a spyware monitoring box &#8212; run multiple<br />
instances of snort on him and a database to log everything to.  Should be<br />
kinda interesting to see.  Secondly, I&#8217;m going to try and use it for some of<br />
my network analysis stuff.  Specifically, seeing if it&#8217;s faster to run ORA on<br />
it, or at the very least what&#8217;s the overall throughput.
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;m a little skeptical about it&#8217;s performance on some of the measures in ORA<br />
because the cores share an FPU.  However, the integer measures should run quite<br />
nicely.  I&#8217;ll also put it through the mixer by running Automap on a large amount<br />
of text obtained from some of my open source reserach to evaluate how it&#8217;s able<br />
to build a network based on all that data.
</p>
<p>
So if folks from <a href="http://www.sun.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.sun.com');">Sun</a> are reading this, please<br />
let me get the machine.  I&#8217;ve got real research to be doing here, and I&#8217;m even<br />
willing put down that I got cool hardware from Sun in my papers.  It&#8217;ll be even<br />
cooler if you let me keep the box.  Here&#8217;s hoping for some interesting results<br />
once it ships!</p>
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